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		<title>Comment on Dating after Divorce: Getting Back in the Game, or Learning the Game from Scratch? by amy</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=898&#038;cpage=1#comment-2203</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also add:

Go slow.

If you have kids at home, go slower.

A divorce is a traumatic event, even if there&#039;s not a big legal fight. Two years is about right for recovery. Women tend not to date much during that time; men will jump into dating before the ink&#039;s dry, hoping to distract themselves from themselves with a woman, and prove that they&#039;re still men. This is why it&#039;s inadvisable to date a recently-divorced guy, unless you&#039;re part therapist. He thinks he&#039;s over it; he&#039;s not. 

If you haven&#039;t dated since you were a kid, and you&#039;re middle aged, take a long, long look around first. Don&#039;t just jump in. There are predators and golddiggers and crazy people and STDs, and you have more to lose now than you did at 17. Date slowly. Do research on your dates before you meet them: it&#039;s not creepy, it&#039;s self-preserving. Look up their criminal records (really). Don&#039;t meet guys who push hard for dates fast. I just turned down one guy who did; he&#039;s a PhD, very nice job, looks all right, profile says single, but the way he jumped to &quot;let&#039;s meet&quot; I thought something was off. It was. He was still mid-divorce; he and his wife were deep in the hole, having spent wildly on McMansions; he had a history of quick divorce and remarriage. When I told him what I&#039;d found and said he didn&#039;t seem my type, and suggested he slow down, he went into rabid attack mode and threatened to have me arrested, told me not to contact him &quot;or anyone else he knew&quot; and then kept sending me threatening notes. Good thing I didn&#039;t go on that date.

Spend time getting to know yourself. Take that first year or so to know yourself as your own person. You&#039;ve never been that before, maybe. Find out who you are and what you really want before you start dating again. Embrace the friendship of women. As part of a couple, you probably had lots of girlfriends, but your primary partner was a man. Get to know women better; they&#039;ll sustain you.

Understand that 45-year-old men are not 20-year-old men. They have different insecurities and want different things from you. And, believe me, they do want things from you. Go slow, have coffee, find out what they are. Don&#039;t feel pressured to jump into bed -- they have something to prove to themselves, you know -- and if you do go to bed, make them use condoms, even though you hate them too. The rate of STDs among single middle-aged people is quite high, and some of them are still very dangerous. No date is worth AIDS, which is still out there, and still a lifelong disease.

Prepare to be hurt. Some of these men will treat you badly. They won&#039;t call, or they&#039;ll bully you, or lie. If you&#039;re fat or look like someone&#039;s mom, they may well leave you on the shelf, not respond to your messages, or otherwise do their best to make you feel inadequate. Don&#039;t. Understand that you are not 17. You are a grown woman, with many accomplishments and much wisdom about life, and you&#039;re a survivor. You&#039;re also capable of seeing through tremendous volumes of bullshit, and a lot of men won&#039;t want that. They want a 25-year-old dream chickie who looks like the mudflap silhouette and will tell them they&#039;re wonderful. Thank these men for saving you the trouble of weeding them out, because they&#039;re awful. 

Some men will assume you are desperate. Politely show them the door.

Overall? Relax. And enjoy your life, and keep your eyes peeled. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also add:</p>
<p>Go slow.</p>
<p>If you have kids at home, go slower.</p>
<p>A divorce is a traumatic event, even if there&#8217;s not a big legal fight. Two years is about right for recovery. Women tend not to date much during that time; men will jump into dating before the ink&#8217;s dry, hoping to distract themselves from themselves with a woman, and prove that they&#8217;re still men. This is why it&#8217;s inadvisable to date a recently-divorced guy, unless you&#8217;re part therapist. He thinks he&#8217;s over it; he&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t dated since you were a kid, and you&#8217;re middle aged, take a long, long look around first. Don&#8217;t just jump in. There are predators and golddiggers and crazy people and STDs, and you have more to lose now than you did at 17. Date slowly. Do research on your dates before you meet them: it&#8217;s not creepy, it&#8217;s self-preserving. Look up their criminal records (really). Don&#8217;t meet guys who push hard for dates fast. I just turned down one guy who did; he&#8217;s a PhD, very nice job, looks all right, profile says single, but the way he jumped to &#8220;let&#8217;s meet&#8221; I thought something was off. It was. He was still mid-divorce; he and his wife were deep in the hole, having spent wildly on McMansions; he had a history of quick divorce and remarriage. When I told him what I&#8217;d found and said he didn&#8217;t seem my type, and suggested he slow down, he went into rabid attack mode and threatened to have me arrested, told me not to contact him &#8220;or anyone else he knew&#8221; and then kept sending me threatening notes. Good thing I didn&#8217;t go on that date.</p>
<p>Spend time getting to know yourself. Take that first year or so to know yourself as your own person. You&#8217;ve never been that before, maybe. Find out who you are and what you really want before you start dating again. Embrace the friendship of women. As part of a couple, you probably had lots of girlfriends, but your primary partner was a man. Get to know women better; they&#8217;ll sustain you.</p>
<p>Understand that 45-year-old men are not 20-year-old men. They have different insecurities and want different things from you. And, believe me, they do want things from you. Go slow, have coffee, find out what they are. Don&#8217;t feel pressured to jump into bed &#8212; they have something to prove to themselves, you know &#8212; and if you do go to bed, make them use condoms, even though you hate them too. The rate of STDs among single middle-aged people is quite high, and some of them are still very dangerous. No date is worth AIDS, which is still out there, and still a lifelong disease.</p>
<p>Prepare to be hurt. Some of these men will treat you badly. They won&#8217;t call, or they&#8217;ll bully you, or lie. If you&#8217;re fat or look like someone&#8217;s mom, they may well leave you on the shelf, not respond to your messages, or otherwise do their best to make you feel inadequate. Don&#8217;t. Understand that you are not 17. You are a grown woman, with many accomplishments and much wisdom about life, and you&#8217;re a survivor. You&#8217;re also capable of seeing through tremendous volumes of bullshit, and a lot of men won&#8217;t want that. They want a 25-year-old dream chickie who looks like the mudflap silhouette and will tell them they&#8217;re wonderful. Thank these men for saving you the trouble of weeding them out, because they&#8217;re awful. </p>
<p>Some men will assume you are desperate. Politely show them the door.</p>
<p>Overall? Relax. And enjoy your life, and keep your eyes peeled. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it Normal for My Divorced Man to Keep in Constant Contact with his Ex-Wife? by Christie Hartman</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=821&#038;cpage=1#comment-2199</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 19:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon: Sounds like such a painful situation! Your situation is too complex to address here. If you&#039;re interested in coaching, or even a consult, please contact me at drchristiehartman@gmail.com. We can help you deal with this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon: Sounds like such a painful situation! Your situation is too complex to address here. If you&#8217;re interested in coaching, or even a consult, please contact me at <a href="mailto:drchristiehartman@gmail.com">drchristiehartman@gmail.com</a>. We can help you deal with this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dating after Divorce: Getting Back in the Game, or Learning the Game from Scratch? by Christie Hartman</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=898&#038;cpage=1#comment-2197</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 22:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Devi! Yes - another good thing about starting over is the chance to pick a better partner, or a partner who better reflects who you&#039;ve become!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Devi! Yes &#8211; another good thing about starting over is the chance to pick a better partner, or a partner who better reflects who you&#8217;ve become!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dating after Divorce: Getting Back in the Game, or Learning the Game from Scratch? by devi benhasenn</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=898&#038;cpage=1#comment-2196</link>
		<dc:creator>devi benhasenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with every thing you said. Since my divorce, I feel like I&#039;m now living my life the way I want to.
I date men who are opposite from my EX so as not to make the same mistake again.

Devi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with every thing you said. Since my divorce, I feel like I&#8217;m now living my life the way I want to.<br />
I date men who are opposite from my EX so as not to make the same mistake again.</p>
<p>Devi</p>
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		<title>Comment on Over 40 and Never Been Married: Problem, or Not? Part 2&#8230; by Mark</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=887&#038;cpage=1#comment-2195</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 12:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one for you. What if you are over 40, never married, and...wait for it...still a virgin? This is the reality I am facing. I really have no desire to marry / have kids but I would love to have a sex life. My virginity is a by-product of being shy earlier in life and simply not much desire to date. It has nothing to do with religious beliefs. I am very independent and honestly, a &quot;commitment-phobe&quot;.

I have messed around with online dating and have had success with women being interested in me. But, none of these women were aware I am a virgin. I usually end the communication with them or sabotage it by pushing them away before anything can develop. Online, I seem to attract a lot of divorced women with kids (it seems 90% of people online are divorced) and I would rather meet someone never married with no kids like me.

This issue weighs heavily on my mind daily, and frankly, leads to depression and anxiety issues. I am at a loss anymore...ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one for you. What if you are over 40, never married, and&#8230;wait for it&#8230;still a virgin? This is the reality I am facing. I really have no desire to marry / have kids but I would love to have a sex life. My virginity is a by-product of being shy earlier in life and simply not much desire to date. It has nothing to do with religious beliefs. I am very independent and honestly, a &#8220;commitment-phobe&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have messed around with online dating and have had success with women being interested in me. But, none of these women were aware I am a virgin. I usually end the communication with them or sabotage it by pushing them away before anything can develop. Online, I seem to attract a lot of divorced women with kids (it seems 90% of people online are divorced) and I would rather meet someone never married with no kids like me.</p>
<p>This issue weighs heavily on my mind daily, and frankly, leads to depression and anxiety issues. I am at a loss anymore&#8230;ugh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Over 40 and Never Been Married: Problem, or Not? by David</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=865&#038;cpage=1#comment-2193</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 08:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a 51 year old male and have never been married. I think I fall into the &quot;late bloomer&quot; category. I lived at home with my mother for 15 years after my father passed away. During this time I lived at home, I was either occupied with my hobby (bike racing) or finishing my post graduate education. 

Getting married or finding a significant other just wasn&#039;t high on my priority list.

Now that I&#039;m 51 I desperately want a lifetime companion but I lack the social skills and confidence to find somebody. I haven&#039;t had much luck meeting anyone using on-line dating websites (i.e. match.com, fitness singles, etc.) or the conventional way (in person). I&#039;ve tried meetup.com events as well but so far no go.

I&#039;m about ready to throw in the towel and just get used to living by myself. It&#039;s really too much of a headache and hassle to meet someone. I started looking for a commited relationshop much too late so now I&#039;m paying the price. My bad I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a 51 year old male and have never been married. I think I fall into the &#8220;late bloomer&#8221; category. I lived at home with my mother for 15 years after my father passed away. During this time I lived at home, I was either occupied with my hobby (bike racing) or finishing my post graduate education. </p>
<p>Getting married or finding a significant other just wasn&#8217;t high on my priority list.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;m 51 I desperately want a lifetime companion but I lack the social skills and confidence to find somebody. I haven&#8217;t had much luck meeting anyone using on-line dating websites (i.e. match.com, fitness singles, etc.) or the conventional way (in person). I&#8217;ve tried meetup.com events as well but so far no go.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m about ready to throw in the towel and just get used to living by myself. It&#8217;s really too much of a headache and hassle to meet someone. I started looking for a commited relationshop much too late so now I&#8217;m paying the price. My bad I guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Why are You Still Single??&#8221; by Tom Lehner</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=891&#038;cpage=1#comment-2190</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Lehner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 21:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post Christie, 
only it does not apply to me because I dont like to be single. That is a fact so when I get asked this question and trust me I get asked many times, after I usually say I dont know or Maybe I am too picky. One way or another I this is a great post and I will memorize some of your possible answers - because I am anyway a cynical sarcastic person and some of those answers are going to make me laugh the my talking friend confused 

Great post my friend (sahring again on FB and Google)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post Christie,<br />
only it does not apply to me because I dont like to be single. That is a fact so when I get asked this question and trust me I get asked many times, after I usually say I dont know or Maybe I am too picky. One way or another I this is a great post and I will memorize some of your possible answers &#8211; because I am anyway a cynical sarcastic person and some of those answers are going to make me laugh the my talking friend confused </p>
<p>Great post my friend (sahring again on FB and Google)</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Why are You Still Single??&#8221; by Christie Hartman</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=891&#038;cpage=1#comment-2189</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 16:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie: Oh yes, the old &quot;you&#039;re too picky&quot; thing. Heard that one before. 
Steve: You crack me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie: Oh yes, the old &#8220;you&#8217;re too picky&#8221; thing. Heard that one before.<br />
Steve: You crack me up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Why are You Still Single??&#8221; by Steve</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=891&#038;cpage=1#comment-2188</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about

&quot;Have you recovered from your &lt;strong&gt;FAILED MARRIAGE(s)&lt;/strong&gt; yet?

People get judgmental about never-married people, as if they are defective somehow.  Yet someone who is the same age and divorced ( or in an unhappy marriage ) is also &quot;defective&quot; in that they lacked something needing to make a marriage work.   It is just that divorcees are so common, now, that nobody feels ashamed about being divorced.   I don&#039;t think they should, they should just extend the same benefit of the doubt to people who have never been married.   Maybe we are single because we were busy doing cool stuff with our lives and/or we had the good judgement other people lacked to avoid marriages that would have failed.

End of rant :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you recovered from your <strong>FAILED MARRIAGE(s)</strong> yet?</p>
<p>People get judgmental about never-married people, as if they are defective somehow.  Yet someone who is the same age and divorced ( or in an unhappy marriage ) is also &#8220;defective&#8221; in that they lacked something needing to make a marriage work.   It is just that divorcees are so common, now, that nobody feels ashamed about being divorced.   I don&#8217;t think they should, they should just extend the same benefit of the doubt to people who have never been married.   Maybe we are single because we were busy doing cool stuff with our lives and/or we had the good judgement other people lacked to avoid marriages that would have failed.</p>
<p>End of rant <img src='http://christiehartman.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Why are You Still Single??&#8221; by Carrie Perdue</title>
		<link>http://christiehartman.com/blog/?p=891&#038;cpage=1#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great!  I typically don&#039;t hear &quot;why are you still single&quot;, more like &quot;you&#039;re too picky&quot;.  Bleccch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great!  I typically don&#8217;t hear &#8220;why are you still single&#8221;, more like &#8220;you&#8217;re too picky&#8221;.  Bleccch.</p>
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